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		<title>By: Inter(esting)Net Elsewhere 6.24.07 &#171; massthink</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-17975</link>
		<dc:creator>Inter(esting)Net Elsewhere 6.24.07 &#171; massthink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] L. Magee&#8217;s outlining of N. Pepperell&#8217;s delineation of critical theory [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] L. Magee&#8217;s outlining of N. Pepperell&#8217;s delineation of critical theory [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roughtheory.org &#187; Assembling an Abstraction</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15946</link>
		<dc:creator>Roughtheory.org &#187; Assembling an Abstraction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hegel, determinate negation (Sinthome probably thought I was never going to get back to this question&#8230;) involves this kind of immanent exposition of how a more adequate concept emerges through a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hegel, determinate negation (Sinthome probably thought I was never going to get back to this question&#8230;) involves this kind of immanent exposition of how a more adequate concept emerges through a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Counter-Factuals and Critique &#171; Larval Subjects .</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15524</link>
		<dc:creator>Counter-Factuals and Critique &#171; Larval Subjects .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 07:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] , Materialism , Emergence , Critique , History&#160;  Mulling over the wizard L Magee&#8217;s systemization of N.Pepperell&#8217;s theoretical work over at Rough Theory, I&#8217;ve been particularly taking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] , Materialism , Emergence , Critique , History&nbsp;  Mulling over the wizard L Magee&#8217;s systemization of N.Pepperell&#8217;s theoretical work over at Rough Theory, I&#8217;ve been particularly taking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clarifying Observations on Space-Time Processes &#171; Larval Subjects</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15512</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarifying Observations on Space-Time Processes &#171; Larval Subjects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that attends to time, space, and process. There are key issues here that converge nicely with N.Pepperell&#8217;s own luminiously emerging project, pertaining to questions of self-reflexivity and emergence. It is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that attends to time, space, and process. There are key issues here that converge nicely with N.Pepperell&#8217;s own luminiously emerging project, pertaining to questions of self-reflexivity and emergence. It is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roughtheory.org &#187; Industrious Inaction</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15497</link>
		<dc:creator>Roughtheory.org &#187; Industrious Inaction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We Cannot Speak&#160;&#160;(7) Sinthome, Sinthome, N Pepperell, Sinthome, Sinthome [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sinthome</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15410</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinthome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 07:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But honestly the degree of systematicity and clarity you&#039;ve attained is really exciting here.  I&#039;m thinking I need to bit the bullet and just run with my individuation concept and develop all its implications and consequences, no matter how painful (I dropped the word as I was initially writing) might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But honestly the degree of systematicity and clarity you&#8217;ve attained is really exciting here.  I&#8217;m thinking I need to bit the bullet and just run with my individuation concept and develop all its implications and consequences, no matter how painful (I dropped the word as I was initially writing) might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinthome</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15409</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinthome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 07:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lacan talks about a certain signifier in a signifying organizing called a &quot;master-signifier&quot; that does not itself have meaning but that organizes all the other terms.  It&#039;s a sort of term that&#039;s subtracted from the rest that can take on any other meaning without being able to be pinned down by any of these terms.  For instance, &quot;freedom&quot; floats about without content and only takes on meaning by being attached to another signifier.  Perhaps this is the way &quot;determinate negation&quot; is functioning for you.  As a sort of organizing empty signifier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lacan talks about a certain signifier in a signifying organizing called a &#8220;master-signifier&#8221; that does not itself have meaning but that organizes all the other terms.  It&#8217;s a sort of term that&#8217;s subtracted from the rest that can take on any other meaning without being able to be pinned down by any of these terms.  For instance, &#8220;freedom&#8221; floats about without content and only takes on meaning by being attached to another signifier.  Perhaps this is the way &#8220;determinate negation&#8221; is functioning for you.  As a sort of organizing empty signifier.</p>
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		<title>By: N Pepperell</title>
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		<dc:creator>N Pepperell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 06:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually thinking earlier today that your recent posts on Spinoza are both exciting and very beautiful - and was envious of them myself :-)

Just a placeholder for the moment, as today is what my friends locally have learned colloquially to call my &quot;hell day&quot; - I teach from first thing in the morning until late in the evening, don&#039;t get home until 10 p.m. - and then generally spend the next day shattered and conceptually useless (which is quite handy, actually, for marking ;-P)...  But I will respond - it just may take me a bit to recover first, before I&#039;m worth listening to - for me, this is actually a particularly productive question, as I&#039;m not really meaning to suggest that the term should be obvious - it&#039;s just the latest attempt to communicate something that I really struggle to convey (or even to see...).  I keep hoping that I&#039;ll hit on a magic word or phrase that just does away with this problem - but it seems that I&#039;m condemned to actually figuring out how to say what I mean... 

Folks at my university keep warning me that if I post concepts on my blog, someone will come along and steal them.  This tells me that they never read my blog - if they did, they would realise that my main worry is that I will never manage to be clear enough that anyone would be &lt;em&gt;able&lt;/em&gt; to steal my ideas...  ;-)

I&#039;ll try to pick this up again, more substantively, when I&#039;m recovered a bit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually thinking earlier today that your recent posts on Spinoza are both exciting and very beautiful &#8211; and was envious of them myself :-)</p>
<p>Just a placeholder for the moment, as today is what my friends locally have learned colloquially to call my &#8220;hell day&#8221; &#8211; I teach from first thing in the morning until late in the evening, don&#8217;t get home until 10 p.m. &#8211; and then generally spend the next day shattered and conceptually useless (which is quite handy, actually, for marking ;-P)&#8230;  But I will respond &#8211; it just may take me a bit to recover first, before I&#8217;m worth listening to &#8211; for me, this is actually a particularly productive question, as I&#8217;m not really meaning to suggest that the term should be obvious &#8211; it&#8217;s just the latest attempt to communicate something that I really struggle to convey (or even to see&#8230;).  I keep hoping that I&#8217;ll hit on a magic word or phrase that just does away with this problem &#8211; but it seems that I&#8217;m condemned to actually figuring out how to say what I mean&#8230; </p>
<p>Folks at my university keep warning me that if I post concepts on my blog, someone will come along and steal them.  This tells me that they never read my blog &#8211; if they did, they would realise that my main worry is that I will never manage to be clear enough that anyone would be <em>able</em> to steal my ideas&#8230;  ;-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to pick this up again, more substantively, when I&#8217;m recovered a bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sinthome</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15397</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinthome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m printing this post out for closer reading and obligatory marginalia, so I can steal your questions or telos, translate them into my own theoretical vocabulary, and spit them out as something that&#039;s my own (a naturalized version mind you...  I suspect I&#039;m Schelling to Hegel here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m printing this post out for closer reading and obligatory marginalia, so I can steal your questions or telos, translate them into my own theoretical vocabulary, and spit them out as something that&#8217;s my own (a naturalized version mind you&#8230;  I suspect I&#8217;m Schelling to Hegel here).</p>
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		<title>By: Sinthome</title>
		<link>http://www.roughtheory.org/content/whereof-we-cannot-speak/comment-page-1/#comment-15396</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinthome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll second Joseph&#039;s remark and say that this is a remarkable post.  It&#039;s exciting to watch you working out your ideas with such rigor and systematic unity.  I&#039;m envious that I don&#039;t have a similar clarity with regard to my questions or what I think about, well, just about anything.  I don&#039;t have much to add as I&#039;m feeling battered, beaten, and abused and therefore full of exhaustion and even a little of despair, so perhaps I&#039;ll just ask a question (not job related, that&#039;s all good).  I&#039;m still extremely unclear on just what you mean by &quot;determinate negation&quot;.  Throughout it seems as if the sense of this term is treated obvious, yet I&#039;m left scratching my head whenever you evoke it.  Perhaps you or L Magee (for some reason his/her name always makes me think of a magician...  I imagine a guy in a blue robe with a wizard hat with stars and all) could give the &quot;determinate negation&quot; explanation for dummies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second Joseph&#8217;s remark and say that this is a remarkable post.  It&#8217;s exciting to watch you working out your ideas with such rigor and systematic unity.  I&#8217;m envious that I don&#8217;t have a similar clarity with regard to my questions or what I think about, well, just about anything.  I don&#8217;t have much to add as I&#8217;m feeling battered, beaten, and abused and therefore full of exhaustion and even a little of despair, so perhaps I&#8217;ll just ask a question (not job related, that&#8217;s all good).  I&#8217;m still extremely unclear on just what you mean by &#8220;determinate negation&#8221;.  Throughout it seems as if the sense of this term is treated obvious, yet I&#8217;m left scratching my head whenever you evoke it.  Perhaps you or L Magee (for some reason his/her name always makes me think of a magician&#8230;  I imagine a guy in a blue robe with a wizard hat with stars and all) could give the &#8220;determinate negation&#8221; explanation for dummies.</p>
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